Manager opinions asked

[Maverick]

I would be interested in the opinion or the perception of the other managers.

The UCFC has one Administrator, as well as one Global Moderator, who together organize and lead this league.
The Administrator is also responsible for the course of the fights, whose fight reports he later publishes.
Both - the Admin and the Global Moderator - also manage their own teams with fighters.

I don´t want to taunt someone anything like "bias" or "manipulation", because I have no evidence… but I notice that the team members of the Admins and the Global Moderators Teams aren´t only very successful in the tournaments and are remarkably successful.
Is it just me?


Participants of the semi-final and final of the tournaments.
The RED participants of the winter tournament were already placed in round 3 from the start.

In both tournaments were only the fighters of these two teams present from the semi-finals.
In the winter tournament, four fighters from these two teams were the only set contestants and started in round 3.
So far 59 victories have been won in all the fights that have been carried out, which finally bring points and increase the status. Of this 59 victory points, 38 were give to fighters of these two teams (64,4 % of all points). The remaining 21 victory points are shared by five other teams with a total of 18 fighters.

It may be that the team members of these two teams are actually very good fighters or the other fighters are totally out of their way, but it seems odd that the teams of the organizers are almost effortlessly victorious, and the increased status makes them practically invincible.

For me, it´s also incomprehensible, as the histories of the battle come about.

[Avril Lavigne]

I have already felt in my fight against Emma Watson in the First Open Fight Night that something is wrong! The combat sequence after the description did not fit at all to the result of the judges!

[Vitezislav]

I can understand your concerns. I do not alter the fights in any way, nor do I change the fights. I don't understand the simulator from time to time. For example in the text it says fighter A is the winner of round 1, while the judges give it to fighter B. I might be that the judges look at organization and how important certain actions are, while the text for fights don't.

Let me show you the judging system as setup for UCFC (changed UFC to UCFC, didn't change the judging system).



I only know look at it and will change this to make everything equal (if people prefer that). Yet it doesn't explain some other fights.
For example Victoria Justice had a few close fights, winning by judges against fighters with less points. While she totally dominated Olivia Wilde in the finals, who should be more or less even with her.
Margot Robbie is probably doing the worst of all against Yvonne Strahovski.

I do think two fighters at the moment are in a snowball position, Yvonne Strahovski and Victoria Justice (although Victoria doesn't have that many points assigned). Halloween event probably the reason, since most managers didn't submit fighting strategies and a bit of luck winning some fights.
Some managers still don't have a fighting strategy for their fighters, which does help. I for example focus with Yvonne and Olivia on kicking and going for the KO.
The fighting style is a RP element, but I do put it in my stats and strategy. They are not ground fighters, so I want to avoid them fighting on the ground.
I changed the KO/Submission frequency to the max, by request of managers.

As for Gary King's fighters winning a lot, I run all the fights. So has no influence on the outcome, other than his fighting strategies and assigning points (his fighters still have points available).

I was already thinking ahead and next tournament will be a rookie tournament, so Yvonne, Victoria and Margot won't be able to join. I will make this tournament a bit longer with first having pool of 3/4 fighters (so every fighter gets more fights), numbers 1 and 2 going to knockout system. Of course it depends on how many fighters join the tournament. This should level the field again for most fighters.

[really]

Two tournaments; the same 4 fighters in the finals. On top of that, both of "u/1's (Vitezislav)" bantamweight fighters once again reach the finals, and Vitezislav's favorite fighter (Yvonne Strahovski, I mean it's not even a question how much he loves her) somehow manages to win both tournaments. Coincidence or conspiracy? 

I only created this account to say that I'm already finished returning to this site... 

[Vitezislav]

I do understand that, I would probably feel the same way.
Nothing I can do about it, except actually trying to rig the fights.

[Maverick]

First of all I´ve to say that I´ve expected a bigger reaction from the other managers or even the fighters. Too bad that no one has followed my call and posted a comment on my view. Only one person has very drastically communicated his opinion... but unfortunately anonymous. Pity!

Then I wish all members a happy and healthy new year 2017!

I´m still not really convinced that the fights are not manipulated! In my eyes just too many oddities speak for the fact that at least in the tournaments not everything go with rights things.

It´s hard for me to believe that of a total of 26 fighters, only 6 fighters should be so extremely superior to the other 20 competitors... and these 6 practically "Unbeatable" equal members in the teams of the Organizer / Admin and the Global Manager are.

There were already decisions of the judges, which stimulated discussions. Fightruns were in part stark contrast to the result from the judges... which I mean not only decisions against my team members!
Somehow I get the feeling that the organized tournaments are divided only among these two teams and their 6 superior fighters.
The Bantamweight class is in the hands of the Team Vitezislav, the Strawweight class in the hand of the Team of the Global Moderators.
In both tournaments, only one fighter from the Bantamweight class of another team managed to reach the semi-final. I already consider a semi-final in such a tournament as quite a good performance. But then we can read how these two good fighters are totally outclassed by the "Draft Horse" from the team oft the admin and later tournament winner in both competitions and are completely defeated with KO or TKO?
As I said before, I can´t prove a manipulation and have no evidence... but a strange flavor remains!

But even if these six fighters exceled their opponents so completely... and actually everything should go with right things (of which I am unfortunately not yet convinced)... then I see for the future of the UCFC a Two-Class-System . On the one hand the teams of the Admin and the Global Moderators... on the other side the remaining teams.

Due to the considerable number of victories... combined with the resulting increased status because of the victory points... these 6 fighters are already clearly superior to the rest of the participants and can´t be defeated. This means that the distance to the rest of the field will be further increased by further victories.
This in turn will make it boring in the UCFC!

I´ve now for a few days thought about a solution of the problem... but unfortunately I thought nothing useful.

I´ll look at the further course and then draw my own conclusions from it. Ultimately, I would probably log off... but what I don´t really want, because basically I like the whole idea of the UCFC. However, I would like to have fun here, but the feeling to be manipulated... which I couldn´t get rid of even after your explanation attempts, Vitezislav ... takes me this fun.

[Gary King]

Hope I can help in someway, even though I've been away a good bit recently.

Maverick, you most certainly have a point. There is no doubt that it does look a bit odd, hell even I was surprised to see Victoria win it all, not just once but twice! So, yes it certainly looks bad. But I've had no backroom dealings with Vite and as far as I know there has been no tampering or "foul play" involved with any of the results. Vite controls all of the sims but he's never struck me as someone to resort to "tampering" or anything like that, so I trust him when he says that it's just how the sim works.

I've used the sim myself, downloaded it to see how it ran and worked. It has a ton of issues. Yes, it does work for the most part but it's far from a perfect system.

Plus as Vite's mentioned, I haven't put any of the spare points my fighters have accumulated into their stats. So I'll admit, it's certainly odd they performed so damn well. I myself am chalking it up to an imperfect piece of software that has a few odd quirks.

As I see it, Vite has really no good reason to rig the fights. Because repetition gets boring and if he was purposefully rigging the fights (which I do not think he is) then not only would it be A. very odd but also B. moderately pointless. I don't know all of the answers unfortunately Maverick, but I figured I should chime in.

I hope my two cents helps a little, if at all.

[Maverick]

I don´t know the simulation myself and haven´t played so far or worked with it.
If it has errors or sometimes reacts oddly, it may be. But always with the same fighters?

As I've already written ... I'll see if the fun doesn´t stop!